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Carlton Ware "Rouge Royale - New Stork" Demi Cup and Saucer

Pattern Number - 4340
Shape Number - 1582 - "Rita"

Made in England

A note from Geoff on Sunday 4th September 2005
"I bought this as a 'Surprise Present' for Sharon!!!
......because it is very different to anything she has got at the moment
It will be the last present for a while
......and why is that???
If you browse through these pages,
you will see that a lot of the items have been bought as a 'Surprise Present'
and the total cost has been in the "hundreds of dollars"!!!
So, quite simply, we have now got to save some money
......and this is a nice cup and saucer set to finish on!!!"

Another note from Geoff on Thursday 13th October 2005
"Yes!!! - I gave in and bought something else!!!
I had to - because it is a matching cup and saucer
(the same Shape Number/Series but a different Pattern)
and all the details can be seen by clicking here"

- The Ebay Auction

Carlton Ware Rouge Royale Demi Cup and Saucer - New Stork
Here is a Carlton Ware Demi Cup and Saucer from the popular Rouge Royale range
featuring the "New Stork" pattern
This piece has the impressed number '1582' underneath the cup
which dates it to the early 1900’s - specifically to 1937-1938
Both the cup and saucer are in extremely good condition
and would be a lovely addition to your Carlton Ware collection
or a great piece to start your Carlton Ware collection with
Item location - Mudjimba, Queensland Australia

The auction ended on Sunday 4th September 2005
The starting price was set at $79.00 and there were ten bids during the auction
Ours was the winner!!! - and we paid $112.50 plus postage

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THE BACKSTAMP

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DATING CARLTON WARE

The following information is from the links included in this logo

Intoduction

To help date Carlton Ware you need to look at
(1) the Carlton Ware (or W&R) backstamp or logo,
(2) the pattern number (usually handpainted) on the base, and
(3) the impressed number on the base

Sometimes the pattern numbers and impressed numbers are not present or are very difficult to read

In the picture above, the pattern number is '2929' and the shape or impressed number is '217'
The marking of '0/2552' is an order number

Backstamp

The following table provides a rough indication of the date a piece of Carlton Ware was made
by looking at the backstamp

NOTE - the above backstamp is taken from the table mentioned above,
and looks very similar to the stamp on the item bought on Ebay

The dates given in the table were 1925 to 1970

Impressed Number - "1582"

The shape or impressed numbers are not always useful for ageing an item

For example, the impressed number of '1582' was first introduced in the late 1930's
It was used for coffee sets for several years

The picture above shows three coffee pots all with the same impressed number '1582'
but with different patterns and different pattern numbers

The impressed number of '1582' was used for coffee sets and as such sets were sold in sets,
all items in the set had the same impressed number

The picture above shows a selection of items from coffee sets, including coffee pots, milk jugs,
sugar bowls, and cups and saucers
All have the same impressed number of '1582'

The following table indicates approximately when a shape was first introduced
These dates will only indicate how old the item might be, but cannot be a guarantee of its age

NOTE - this information was taken from the table mentioned above
Shape or impressed number - 1500 to 1600
Approximate date when first introduced - 1937/1938

Pattern Number - "4340"

This pattern was described as:-
"Two crane like birds wading in a lake under trees with pendulous hanging foliage
Rouge Royale background"

NOTE - the following photo is of this pattern and looks identical to our cup and saucer

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NOTE ONE

The information below is from

and click on the logo to go to their web site
or click here to go directly to the "Rouge Royale" items page
(these pages/details were available as at Sunday 4th September 2005)

Carlton Ware "Rouge Royale"
Shape #1582
Pattern Description - Dark Red, Gold Trim
Items similar to ours were not listed

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NOTE TWO - Carlton Ware Information

Click on this logo
The page has heaps of details and photos of Carlton Ware
It also includes this Message Board

which you can join if you want and have
"lots of chats with like-minded people!!!"
(these pages/details were available as at Sunday 4th September 2005)

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NOTE THREE

Click on the logo to go to this site
or click here to go directly to their Carlton Ware page
It has lots of items "For Sale"!!!
(these pages/details were available as at Sunday 4th September 2005)

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OTHER-

-AUCTIONS

Superb example of "New Storks" Coffee Can and Saucer
The condition is excellent
No chips, cracks, rubbing, staining, scratches or restoration
Excellant gilding
Measures 2.750 inches high approx (70mm)
Item location - Bournemouth United Kingdom
Auction ended Sunday 23rd October 2005
The starting price was set at $59.19 and there was only one bid!!!
Selling price $59.19
(...and this is much less than what we paid - damn!!!)